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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... 😄

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... :rolleyes:

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

Lyssna på någon låt du gillar, de flesta låtar har ju någon logik i sig. T ex

Intro

Refräng

Vers

Brygga

Refräng

Vers

Brygga

Refräng

break eller solo eller annat som bryter av

Brygga

Refräng

Refräng (alternativ upp något tonsteg för att 'lyfta' låten a'la schlager)

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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... :rolleyes:

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

Hei Magi!

Jeg svarer på engelsk, slik at det blir enklere å forstå meg 😛 ::

To write good lyrics is the same as being able to tell great stories. With as few words as possible, you need to capture the essence of an atmosphere, a mood, or a feeling. Most all great stories begin with an exciting, mysterious, unusual - in some way interesting start. The first sentences must capture the attention of the listener. This is often done by using "new", interesting or "textured" words - or by describing an interesting setting or interesting people with great imagery and metaphors. As the story progresses, some unexpected twists and turns keeps the listener interested enough to listen all to the end.

It's hard to explain how to write a good lyric, so I have tried to analyze one - to show how the writer has used his words to convey images and emotions to us, to maintain an atmosphere and to carry the story forward.

---

Tim Mcgraw - Grown men don't cry

First verse:

1. I pulled into the shopping center

2. And saw a little boy wrapped around the legs of his mother

3. Like ice cream melting they embraced

4. Years of bad decisions runnin' down her face

5. All mornin' I'd been thinkin' my life's so hard

6. And they wore everything they own, livin' in a car

7. I wanted to tell 'em it would be ok

8. But I got just got in my suburban and I drove away

My thoughts on the first verse, sentence by sentence:

1. Setting. The framework for the story - where are we?, what time, place, universe and so on.

2. People. Who is this story about. Don't forget that the observer (singer) is also a character here.

3. Texture, imagery. This sentence really says it all, doesn't it? You can picture two people embracing like they were melting together. The writer is activating our imagination - getting the mind interested..

4. More texture and imagery. Without saying straight out that "the mother is crying because she's made some wrong choices in her life", the writer is able to transmit both a feeling and an image of hopelessness in the same sentence, still leaving our minds to "solve" the metaphor - making the lyrics more interesting than if the situation was simply explained..

5. Change of focus to keep the story interesting. Back to the main character (singer) - and his relation to these other characters.

6. More imagery - again, without saying directly that these people are poor.

7 / 8. Moving away from the situation. Changing focus. This enables the listener to be prepared for a new setting, a new sidestory - something new.

Also notice that we're not getting really personal with anything here in the first verse. The singer is mostly describing a situation that he is observing, not something he is actively involved in - this lets the listener join in on the observation and attach his/her feelings to the situation - instead of getting attached to the characters (which would be a bad idea, since we dont even know the characters properly yet, and it would be hard to feel anything for them at this point..?)

It's interesting to see the songwriters use of "senses" in his choice of words.. SEE, HEAR, SMELL, FEEL, TASTE.

(1. First we get the setting. )

2. Then we SEE the people.

3. And you know the TASTE of icecream (metaphor: sweet embrace?).

4. You know the FEELing of tears on your face.

and so on..

[CHORUS HERE]

Second verse:

1. Keep having this dream about my old man

2. I'm 10 years old, and he's holding my hand

3. We're talkin' on the front porch watchin' the sun go down

4. But it was just a dream - he was a slave to his job and he couldn't be around

5. So many things I wanna say to him

6. But I just placed a rose on his grave, and I talk to the wind

1. New setting - a little more personal now, since we have gotten a little bit more attached / used to the singer character.

2. FEEL: most people know what it feels like to hold your fathers hand. Observe that we begin with the sense FEEL - which is the closest and most personal one to us all.

3. New senses... HEAR, SEE, - we are moving "away" from our person. HEAR is the third closest sense to us, and SEE is the one furthest apart.. So by describing "talking.. watching the sun go down".. - he is moving our focus away from the FEEL sense, step by step.

4. Now the twist in the story, and the reason for why the writer begun to move us away from the FEEL sense in the previous sentence. We are taken away from the "idyllic" father/son relationship and brought down to earth by the cold hard facts.

5. Back to the HEAR sense ("..say to him.."), moving closer to something more personal again?

6. FEEL. The touch of a rose - thorns = pain, but beautiful to look at.. - perfectly describing the singers "broken" relationship with his father.. And again back to HEAR (talk to the wind), and then to FEEL (the sensation of wind on your skin).. Moving to something more personal again.. The writer is pushing and pulling us back and forth between different senses, causing tension and expectation..

[CHORUS]

Third verse:

1. I'm sittin' here with my kids and my wife

2. And everything that I hold dear in my life

3. We say grace and thank the Lord

4. Got so much to be thankful for

5. Then it's up the stairs and off to bed and my little girl says

6. "I haven't had my story yet."

7. And everything weighin' on my mind disappears just like that

8. When she lifts her head off her pillow and says,

9. "I Love You Dad"

1. Even more personal and serious.. Now we feel we know the singer character - and we are introduced to his family. Observe how the words and images get more "simple" and down to earth now. Instead of using clever imagery and "textured" words - the writer is taking the story "down to earth", describing with the most simple and easy words...

2. hold dear in my life (FEEL)

3. say grace (HEAR)

4. Conclusion sentence.. Afterthought.. A little breathing room in the story. We get ready for something new..

5. New situation / setting / atmosphere.. another little twist in the story, and we are moving away from the tension/seriousness..

6. Goodvibes are coming back as you picture the little girl asking to hear a bedtime story 😄

7. The good vibes are back indeed! Forgetting about the past and all the worries, focusing on the present.

8. More simple imagery, leading our imagination up to the final payoff sentence.

9. PAYOFF! What could be more good-vibe than this? 🙂

As you see, the writer is taking us on an emotional rollercoaster. We begin with observing a sad situation.. Then we are brought to the memories of an even more sad situation (poor relationship with his father).. And then a bit back up to a melancholic and personal situation where we get an afterthought - an "ending" of the sadness. And then back to the happiness of the present.

By using clever and unusual images:

"And saw a little boy wrapped around the legs of his mother

Like ice cream melting they embraced"

The writer grabs our attention, and takes our imagination on a journey. And as we progress in the song (story) it gets deeper and more personal - but also more simple and down to earth. So, the beginning seems to be "clever" to catch our attention - and then the story is made more and more simple to make it easy to remember and relate to..

The combination of a lyric that is interesting to listen to, easy to remember, and makes you feel something is what makes this lyric work. And there is the music - that with its mood-setting choices of chords and melody makes it even more interesting and memorable. And makes you feel even more for the words and the story...

---

Even though these are my thoughts, I hope you got something out of them. Perhaps you begin to focus on how you build your story - and how you choose to tell it, and try to make it more interesting, memorable and heartbreaking/positive/"feelworthy"..

- J.

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Mitt bistra svar är nog att om du måste be om hjälp med text och musikskrivandet är du inte värd ett MVG.

Bit ihop, ta G'et och kom igen!

Höh? Det handlar ju om vad man lär sig, inte vad man kan sen innan...

Jaha, så han ska alltså "komma igång med sitt låtskrivande" genom att få tips i den här tråden?

Tänk om forum.studio.se funnits på John Lennons tid, då hade vi sluppit vänta så länge på hans musikalitet.

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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... 😉

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

Hei Magi!

Jeg svarer på engelsk, slik at det blir enklere å forstå meg 😳 ::

To write good lyrics is the same as being able to tell great stories. With as few words as possible, you need to capture the essence of an atmosphere, a mood, or a feeling. Most all great stories begin with an exciting, mysterious, unusual - in some way interesting start. The first sentences must capture the attention of the listener. This is often done by using "new", interesting or "textured" words - or by describing an interesting setting or interesting people with great imagery and metaphors. As the story progresses, some unexpected twists and turns keeps the listener interested enough to listen all to the end.

It's hard to explain how to write a good lyric, so I have tried to analyze one - to show how the writer has used his words to convey images and emotions to us, to maintain an atmosphere and to carry the story forward.

---

Tim Mcgraw - Grown men don't cry

First verse:

1. I pulled into the shopping center

2. And saw a little boy wrapped around the legs of his mother

3. Like ice cream melting they embraced

4. Years of bad decisions runnin' down her face

5. All mornin' I'd been thinkin' my life's so hard

6. And they wore everything they own, livin' in a car

7. I wanted to tell 'em it would be ok

8. But I got just got in my suburban and I drove away

My thoughts on the first verse, sentence by sentence:

1. Setting. The framework for the story - where are we?, what time, place, universe and so on.

2. People. Who is this story about. Don't forget that the observer (singer) is also a character here.

3. Texture, imagery. This sentence really says it all, doesn't it? You can picture two people embracing like they were melting together. The writer is activating our imagination - getting the mind interested..

4. More texture and imagery. Without saying straight out that "the mother is crying because she's made some wrong choices in her life", the writer is able to transmit both a feeling and an image of hopelessness in the same sentence, still leaving our minds to "solve" the metaphor - making the lyrics more interesting than if the situation was simply explained..

5. Change of focus to keep the story interesting. Back to the main character (singer) - and his relation to these other characters.

6. More imagery - again, without saying directly that these people are poor.

7 / 8. Moving away from the situation. Changing focus. This enables the listener to be prepared for a new setting, a new sidestory - something new.

Also notice that we're not getting really personal with anything here in the first verse. The singer is mostly describing a situation that he is observing, not something he is actively involved in - this lets the listener join in on the observation and attach his/her feelings to the situation - instead of getting attached to the characters (which would be a bad idea, since we dont even know the characters properly yet, and it would be hard to feel anything for them at this point..?)

It's interesting to see the songwriters use of "senses" in his choice of words.. SEE, HEAR, SMELL, FEEL, TASTE.

(1. First we get the setting. )

2. Then we SEE the people.

3. And you know the TASTE of icecream (metaphor: sweet embrace?).

4. You know the FEELing of tears on your face.

and so on..

[CHORUS HERE]

Second verse:

1. Keep having this dream about my old man

2. I'm 10 years old, and he's holding my hand

3. We're talkin' on the front porch watchin' the sun go down

4. But it was just a dream - he was a slave to his job and he couldn't be around

5. So many things I wanna say to him

6. But I just placed a rose on his grave, and I talk to the wind

1. New setting - a little more personal now, since we have gotten a little bit more attached / used to the singer character.

2. FEEL: most people know what it feels like to hold your fathers hand. Observe that we begin with the sense FEEL - which is the closest and most personal one to us all.

3. New senses... HEAR, SEE, - we are moving "away" from our person. HEAR is the third closest sense to us, and SEE is the one furthest apart.. So by describing "talking.. watching the sun go down".. - he is moving our focus away from the FEEL sense, step by step.

4. Now the twist in the story, and the reason for why the writer begun to move us away from the FEEL sense in the previous sentence. We are taken away from the "idyllic" father/son relationship and brought down to earth by the cold hard facts.

5. Back to the HEAR sense ("..say to him.."), moving closer to something more personal again?

6. FEEL. The touch of a rose - thorns = pain, but beautiful to look at.. - perfectly describing the singers "broken" relationship with his father.. And again back to HEAR (talk to the wind), and then to FEEL (the sensation of wind on your skin).. Moving to something more personal again.. The writer is pushing and pulling us back and forth between different senses, causing tension and expectation..

[CHORUS]

Third verse:

1. I'm sittin' here with my kids and my wife

2. And everything that I hold dear in my life

3. We say grace and thank the Lord

4. Got so much to be thankful for

5. Then it's up the stairs and off to bed and my little girl says

6. "I haven't had my story yet."

7. And everything weighin' on my mind disappears just like that

8. When she lifts her head off her pillow and says,

9. "I Love You Dad"

1. Even more personal and serious.. Now we feel we know the singer character - and we are introduced to his family. Observe how the words and images get more "simple" and down to earth now. Instead of using clever imagery and "textured" words - the writer is taking the story "down to earth", describing with the most simple and easy words...

2. hold dear in my life (FEEL)

3. say grace (HEAR)

4. Conclusion sentence.. Afterthought.. A little breathing room in the story. We get ready for something new..

5. New situation / setting / atmosphere.. another little twist in the story, and we are moving away from the tension/seriousness..

6. Goodvibes are coming back as you picture the little girl asking to hear a bedtime story 😳

7. The good vibes are back indeed! Forgetting about the past and all the worries, focusing on the present.

8. More simple imagery, leading our imagination up to the final payoff sentence.

9. PAYOFF! What could be more good-vibe than this? 😉

As you see, the writer is taking us on an emotional rollercoaster. We begin with observing a sad situation.. Then we are brought to the memories of an even more sad situation (poor relationship with his father).. And then a bit back up to a melancholic and personal situation where we get an afterthought - an "ending" of the sadness. And then back to the happiness of the present.

By using clever and unusual images:

"And saw a little boy wrapped around the legs of his mother

Like ice cream melting they embraced"

The writer grabs our attention, and takes our imagination on a journey. And as we progress in the song (story) it gets deeper and more personal - but also more simple and down to earth. So, the beginning seems to be "clever" to catch our attention - and then the story is made more and more simple to make it easy to remember and relate to..

The combination of a lyric that is interesting to listen to, easy to remember, and makes you feel something is what makes this lyric work. And there is the music - that with its mood-setting choices of chords and melody makes it even more interesting and memorable. And makes you feel even more for the words and the story...

---

Even though these are my thoughts, I hope you got something out of them. Perhaps you begin to focus on how you build your story - and how you choose to tell it, and try to make it more interesting, memorable and heartbreaking/positive/"feelworthy"..

- J.

Fantastiskt!!!!

Bra jobbat och ett bevis i vad en riktig texförfattare måste kunna.

Thanx for the reminder!

/Crunchman

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Eller va' fan. Hade jag varit 15 år idag så hade jag förmodligen skaffat Ejay och pulat samman något med de färdiga samplingarna. Kan du inte göra en låt med det programmet så skall du nog inte tänka i MVG-banorna.

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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... 😉

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

Hei Magi!

Jeg svarer på engelsk, slik at det blir enklere å forstå meg 😳 ::

To write good lyrics is the same as being able to tell great stories. With as few words as possible, you need to capture the essence of an atmosphere, a mood, or a feeling. Most all great stories begin with an exciting, mysterious, unusual - in some way interesting start. The first sentences must capture the attention of the listener. This is often done by using "new", interesting or "textured" words - or by describing an interesting setting or interesting people with great imagery and metaphors. As the story progresses, some unexpected twists and turns keeps the listener interested enough to listen all to the end.

It's hard to explain how to write a good lyric, so I have tried to analyze one - to show how the writer has used his words to convey images and emotions to us, to maintain an atmosphere and to carry the story forward.

---

Tim Mcgraw - Grown men don't cry

First verse:

1. I pulled into the shopping center

2. And saw a little boy wrapped around the legs of his mother

3. Like ice cream melting they embraced

4. Years of bad decisions runnin' down her face

5. All mornin' I'd been thinkin' my life's so hard

6. And they wore everything they own, livin' in a car

7. I wanted to tell 'em it would be ok

8. But I got just got in my suburban and I drove away

My thoughts on the first verse, sentence by sentence:

1. Setting. The framework for the story - where are we?, what time, place, universe and so on.

2. People. Who is this story about. Don't forget that the observer (singer) is also a character here.

3. Texture, imagery. This sentence really says it all, doesn't it? You can picture two people embracing like they were melting together. The writer is activating our imagination - getting the mind interested..

4. More texture and imagery. Without saying straight out that "the mother is crying because she's made some wrong choices in her life", the writer is able to transmit both a feeling and an image of hopelessness in the same sentence, still leaving our minds to "solve" the metaphor - making the lyrics more interesting than if the situation was simply explained..

5. Change of focus to keep the story interesting. Back to the main character (singer) - and his relation to these other characters.

6. More imagery - again, without saying directly that these people are poor.

7 / 8. Moving away from the situation. Changing focus. This enables the listener to be prepared for a new setting, a new sidestory - something new.

Also notice that we're not getting really personal with anything here in the first verse. The singer is mostly describing a situation that he is observing, not something he is actively involved in - this lets the listener join in on the observation and attach his/her feelings to the situation - instead of getting attached to the characters (which would be a bad idea, since we dont even know the characters properly yet, and it would be hard to feel anything for them at this point..?)

It's interesting to see the songwriters use of "senses" in his choice of words.. SEE, HEAR, SMELL, FEEL, TASTE.

(1. First we get the setting. )

2. Then we SEE the people.

3. And you know the TASTE of icecream (metaphor: sweet embrace?).

4. You know the FEELing of tears on your face.

and so on..

[CHORUS HERE]

Second verse:

1. Keep having this dream about my old man

2. I'm 10 years old, and he's holding my hand

3. We're talkin' on the front porch watchin' the sun go down

4. But it was just a dream - he was a slave to his job and he couldn't be around

5. So many things I wanna say to him

6. But I just placed a rose on his grave, and I talk to the wind

1. New setting - a little more personal now, since we have gotten a little bit more attached / used to the singer character.

2. FEEL: most people know what it feels like to hold your fathers hand. Observe that we begin with the sense FEEL - which is the closest and most personal one to us all.

3. New senses... HEAR, SEE, - we are moving "away" from our person. HEAR is the third closest sense to us, and SEE is the one furthest apart.. So by describing "talking.. watching the sun go down".. - he is moving our focus away from the FEEL sense, step by step.

4. Now the twist in the story, and the reason for why the writer begun to move us away from the FEEL sense in the previous sentence. We are taken away from the "idyllic" father/son relationship and brought down to earth by the cold hard facts.

5. Back to the HEAR sense ("..say to him.."), moving closer to something more personal again?

6. FEEL. The touch of a rose - thorns = pain, but beautiful to look at.. - perfectly describing the singers "broken" relationship with his father.. And again back to HEAR (talk to the wind), and then to FEEL (the sensation of wind on your skin).. Moving to something more personal again.. The writer is pushing and pulling us back and forth between different senses, causing tension and expectation..

[CHORUS]

Third verse:

1. I'm sittin' here with my kids and my wife

2. And everything that I hold dear in my life

3. We say grace and thank the Lord

4. Got so much to be thankful for

5. Then it's up the stairs and off to bed and my little girl says

6. "I haven't had my story yet."

7. And everything weighin' on my mind disappears just like that

8. When she lifts her head off her pillow and says,

9. "I Love You Dad"

1. Even more personal and serious.. Now we feel we know the singer character - and we are introduced to his family. Observe how the words and images get more "simple" and down to earth now. Instead of using clever imagery and "textured" words - the writer is taking the story "down to earth", describing with the most simple and easy words...

2. hold dear in my life (FEEL)

3. say grace (HEAR)

4. Conclusion sentence.. Afterthought.. A little breathing room in the story. We get ready for something new..

5. New situation / setting / atmosphere.. another little twist in the story, and we are moving away from the tension/seriousness..

6. Goodvibes are coming back as you picture the little girl asking to hear a bedtime story 😳

7. The good vibes are back indeed! Forgetting about the past and all the worries, focusing on the present.

8. More simple imagery, leading our imagination up to the final payoff sentence.

9. PAYOFF! What could be more good-vibe than this? 😉

As you see, the writer is taking us on an emotional rollercoaster. We begin with observing a sad situation.. Then we are brought to the memories of an even more sad situation (poor relationship with his father).. And then a bit back up to a melancholic and personal situation where we get an afterthought - an "ending" of the sadness. And then back to the happiness of the present.

By using clever and unusual images:

"And saw a little boy wrapped around the legs of his mother

Like ice cream melting they embraced"

The writer grabs our attention, and takes our imagination on a journey. And as we progress in the song (story) it gets deeper and more personal - but also more simple and down to earth. So, the beginning seems to be "clever" to catch our attention - and then the story is made more and more simple to make it easy to remember and relate to..

The combination of a lyric that is interesting to listen to, easy to remember, and makes you feel something is what makes this lyric work. And there is the music - that with its mood-setting choices of chords and melody makes it even more interesting and memorable. And makes you feel even more for the words and the story...

---

Even though these are my thoughts, I hope you got something out of them. Perhaps you begin to focus on how you build your story - and how you choose to tell it, and try to make it more interesting, memorable and heartbreaking/positive/"feelworthy"..

- J.

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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... 😉

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

Hei Magi!

Jeg svarer på engelsk, slik at det blir enklere å forstå meg 😳 ::

To write good lyrics is the same as being able to tell great stories. With as few words as possible, you need to capture the essence of an atmosphere, a mood, or a feeling. Most all great stories begin with an exciting, mysterious, unusual - in some way interesting start. The first sentences must capture the attention of the listener. This is often done by using "new", interesting or "textured" words - or by describing an interesting setting or interesting people with great imagery and metaphors. As the story progresses, some unexpected twists and turns keeps the listener interested enough to listen all to the end.

It's hard to explain how to write a good lyric, so I have tried to analyze one - to show how the writer has used his words to convey images and emotions to us, to maintain an atmosphere and to carry the story forward.

---

Tim Mcgraw - Grown men don't cry

First verse:

1. I pulled into the shopping center

2. And saw a little boy wrapped around the legs of his mother

3. Like ice cream melting they embraced

4. Years of bad decisions runnin' down her face

5. All mornin' I'd been thinkin' my life's so hard

6. And they wore everything they own, livin' in a car

7. I wanted to tell 'em it would be ok

8. But I got just got in my suburban and I drove away

My thoughts on the first verse, sentence by sentence:

1. Setting. The framework for the story - where are we?, what time, place, universe and so on.

2. People. Who is this story about. Don't forget that the observer (singer) is also a character here.

3. Texture, imagery. This sentence really says it all, doesn't it? You can picture two people embracing like they were melting together. The writer is activating our imagination - getting the mind interested..

4. More texture and imagery. Without saying straight out that "the mother is crying because she's made some wrong choices in her life", the writer is able to transmit both a feeling and an image of hopelessness in the same sentence, still leaving our minds to "solve" the metaphor - making the lyrics more interesting than if the situation was simply explained..

5. Change of focus to keep the story interesting. Back to the main character (singer) - and his relation to these other characters.

6. More imagery - again, without saying directly that these people are poor.

7 / 8. Moving away from the situation. Changing focus. This enables the listener to be prepared for a new setting, a new sidestory - something new.

Also notice that we're not getting really personal with anything here in the first verse. The singer is mostly describing a situation that he is observing, not something he is actively involved in - this lets the listener join in on the observation and attach his/her feelings to the situation - instead of getting attached to the characters (which would be a bad idea, since we dont even know the characters properly yet, and it would be hard to feel anything for them at this point..?)

It's interesting to see the songwriters use of "senses" in his choice of words.. SEE, HEAR, SMELL, FEEL, TASTE.

(1. First we get the setting. )

2. Then we SEE the people.

3. And you know the TASTE of icecream (metaphor: sweet embrace?).

4. You know the FEELing of tears on your face.

and so on..

[CHORUS HERE]

Second verse:

1. Keep having this dream about my old man

2. I'm 10 years old, and he's holding my hand

3. We're talkin' on the front porch watchin' the sun go down

4. But it was just a dream - he was a slave to his job and he couldn't be around

5. So many things I wanna say to him

6. But I just placed a rose on his grave, and I talk to the wind

1. New setting - a little more personal now, since we have gotten a little bit more attached / used to the singer character.

2. FEEL: most people know what it feels like to hold your fathers hand. Observe that we begin with the sense FEEL - which is the closest and most personal one to us all.

3. New senses... HEAR, SEE, - we are moving "away" from our person. HEAR is the third closest sense to us, and SEE is the one furthest apart.. So by describing "talking.. watching the sun go down".. - he is moving our focus away from the FEEL sense, step by step.

4. Now the twist in the story, and the reason for why the writer begun to move us away from the FEEL sense in the previous sentence. We are taken away from the "idyllic" father/son relationship and brought down to earth by the cold hard facts.

5. Back to the HEAR sense ("..say to him.."), moving closer to something more personal again?

6. FEEL. The touch of a rose - thorns = pain, but beautiful to look at.. - perfectly describing the singers "broken" relationship with his father.. And again back to HEAR (talk to the wind), and then to FEEL (the sensation of wind on your skin).. Moving to something more personal again.. The writer is pushing and pulling us back and forth between different senses, causing tension and expectation..

[CHORUS]

Third verse:

1. I'm sittin' here with my kids and my wife

2. And everything that I hold dear in my life

3. We say grace and thank the Lord

4. Got so much to be thankful for

5. Then it's up the stairs and off to bed and my little girl says

6. "I haven't had my story yet."

7. And everything weighin' on my mind disappears just like that

8. When she lifts her head off her pillow and says,

9. "I Love You Dad"

1. Even more personal and serious.. Now we feel we know the singer character - and we are introduced to his family. Observe how the words and images get more "simple" and down to earth now. Instead of using clever imagery and "textured" words - the writer is taking the story "down to earth", describing with the most simple and easy words...

2. hold dear in my life (FEEL)

3. say grace (HEAR)

4. Conclusion sentence.. Afterthought.. A little breathing room in the story. We get ready for something new..

5. New situation / setting / atmosphere.. another little twist in the story, and we are moving away from the tension/seriousness..

6. Goodvibes are coming back as you picture the little girl asking to hear a bedtime story 😳

7. The good vibes are back indeed! Forgetting about the past and all the worries, focusing on the present.

8. More simple imagery, leading our imagination up to the final payoff sentence.

9. PAYOFF! What could be more good-vibe than this? 😉

As you see, the writer is taking us on an emotional rollercoaster. We begin with observing a sad situation.. Then we are brought to the memories of an even more sad situation (poor relationship with his father).. And then a bit back up to a melancholic and personal situation where we get an afterthought - an "ending" of the sadness. And then back to the happiness of the present.

By using clever and unusual images:

"And saw a little boy wrapped around the legs of his mother

Like ice cream melting they embraced"

The writer grabs our attention, and takes our imagination on a journey. And as we progress in the song (story) it gets deeper and more personal - but also more simple and down to earth. So, the beginning seems to be "clever" to catch our attention - and then the story is made more and more simple to make it easy to remember and relate to..

The combination of a lyric that is interesting to listen to, easy to remember, and makes you feel something is what makes this lyric work. And there is the music - that with its mood-setting choices of chords and melody makes it even more interesting and memorable. And makes you feel even more for the words and the story...

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Even though these are my thoughts, I hope you got something out of them. Perhaps you begin to focus on how you build your story - and how you choose to tell it, and try to make it more interesting, memorable and heartbreaking/positive/"feelworthy"..

- J.

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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... 😉

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

En bra grej du kan göra som faktiskt gäller alla aspekter i musikskapandet är att analysera andra musiker för att få kunskap och inspiration. Lyssna på dina favoritartister eller musik liknande den du försöker skapa och lär dig hur andra gör. Åk till biblan och låna notböcker. Vilka ackorder använder de och i vilken ordning?

För att skriva en mvg text måste du först och främst ha något att säga och brinna för att vilja berätta. Det är som att skriva en historia, du måste lägga mycket tankeverksamhet bakom det.

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Burnin Sven (oregistrerad)

Det långa inlägget är bra och tänkvärt helt klart men jag tror inte det går att lära sig sånt "det" antingen finns från början eller ej och förmodligen finns det hos oss alla men vi kanske inte riktigt vågar lita på vårat eget sätt att uttrycka "det". Hjärtat måste alltid vara med när det gäller skapande verksamhet, även när det gäller banala kärleks/hantverks låtar från proffesionella songsmiths så är det kännetecknande att det är avskalat, naket och berör. Man kan beröra på många sätt det gäller bara at hitta sitt "språk".

Göran

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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... 😑

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

Jag hoppas du skojar? 🙂

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Moonlight (oregistrerad)

Hej på er alla jag är en tjej på 14 år men fyller 15 strax...

Men jag säger som så att jag är nybörjare när det gäller att skriva sånger och jag håller på med musik ganska mycket och nu har betygsättningen börjat och jag kämpar på med att lyckas att få Mvg i musik.

Jag vet att många tycker att om man ber om hjälp med att skriva en text så tycker ni att man inte förtjänar ett mvg men där har ni fel jag vill få er att förstå att om man hjälper en person kan den prestera mycket bra och bli något, för att man måste be om hjälp någon stans på vägen....

Men i alla fall jag gillar den här sida det verkar finnas många dröm görare och många drömmförstörare men tja inget mera att säga så sayonara.

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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... 🙂

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

Gör det enkelt för dig och gå t.ex efter en av de mallar som nämnts ovan.

Ta en färdig ackordstruktur och hitta på en enkel text och melodi.

Vem som helst kan skriva en låt, om den sen är bra eller inte spelar ingen roll.

Din uppgift var bara att skriva text och musik.

Antar att betyget mvg avgörs mest på om du har skrivit bra på proven mm.

Vem ska avgöra om en låt är dålig eller bra?

Lycka till!

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Hej på er alla jag är en tjej på 14 år men fyller 15 strax...

Men jag säger som så att jag är nybörjare när det gäller att skriva sånger och jag håller på med musik ganska mycket och nu har betygsättningen börjat och jag kämpar på med att lyckas att få Mvg i musik.

Jag vet att många tycker att om man ber om hjälp med att skriva en text så tycker ni att man inte förtjänar ett mvg men där har ni fel jag vill få er att förstå att om man hjälper en person kan den prestera mycket bra och bli något, för att man måste be om hjälp någon stans på vägen....

Men i alla fall jag gillar den här sida det verkar finnas många dröm görare och många drömmförstörare men tja inget mera att säga så sayonara.

Hej. Glöm tråkmånsarna, det är ju bättre om du får nåt gjort med hjälp än att du inte gör nåt alls. Tyvärr så är det lite svårt att svara på frågan "hur man gör". Var och en har ju sina sätt, och det är inte alltid så lätt att förklara. Du måste nog hitta ditt eget, och den enda vägen dit är att testa. 🙂 Krångla inte till det i onödan, ofta är det enklaste det bästa.

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Jag skulle bli välddigt förvånad om det måste vara bättre än acceptabelt för att man ska få ett MVG. Visar du att du försökt så räcker nog det.

Att skriva bra texter på riktigt är nog tyvärr inget man lär sig på ett par veckor av att läsa på ett forum, utan av att skriva skriva och skriva i år. Jag har hållit på med det i tre år nu och jag kanske snart börjar närma mig nånting som liknar okej texter.

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Skriva texter kan naturligtvis vara svårt men det handlar mest om att övervinna sin inre kritiker och ignorera alla yttre.

Jag säger inte att man kan skriva texter som Dylan på en vecka men jag hävdar att alla kan skriva texter.

Det viktiga är att tro på att just dina tankar och känslor är viktiga och inte försöka göra som dom etablerade. Och tro mig alla är unika och har någonting att tillföra. Ett bra sätt att komma över den inre kritikerns diktatur är att skriva morgonsidor. Det går till så att det första du gör på morgonen är att skriva 3 st A4 sidor så fort som möjligt utan att tänka på vad du skriver det kan tillochmed vara så att du tänker på annat än det du faktiskt skriver det är tillochmed att eftersträva.

Sen gör du detta varje morgon så kommer du snabbt att se att dit skrivande kommer att lossna.

Det är dock viktigt att du inte läser det du har skrivit eller låter någon annan läsa dina sidor.

För dom är inte till för att bedömas och analyseras utan enbart för att frigöra din kreativitet.

När man har gjort detta några månader kan man gå tillbaka och läsa men inte tidigare.

Om du gör detta varje morgon kan jag garantera att du kommmer snabbt att göra stora framsteg.

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Om du inte har någon musik inom dig som bara vill komma ut och inte heller något du bara måste få säga/skriva så kanske detta kan var till hjälp?

1. Titta igenom de tidningar du brukar läsa och leta efter rubriker, uttryck, händelser och annat som kan ge uppslag till början av en text. Skriv ner några stycken.

2. Ta en låt du gillar (inte alltför komplicerad) och skriv några rader utifrån något av de uppslag du fått så de passar till melodin. Blir det inget så ta nästa uppslag.

3. När du fått till något som du känner dig nöjd med försöker du hitta på en annan melodi. Försök att få till en melodi som stämmer med vad texten handlar om - är det allvarligt, sorgligt, roligt, spännande så försöker du hitta tonföljder som låter på det viset. Om du spelar något instrument har du stor hjälp av det för att få melodiidéer.

Lycka till

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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... 😱

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

Ärligt talat, är det någon som sagt så till dig: "Skriver du en tillräckligt bra låt/text så har du chans på ett mvg i musik."

Du är snart 15 så du borde gå i 8'an. Stämmer det? För att få mvg i ett ämne ska man visa att man tillgodogjort sig kursen på bästa sätt. Men musikundervisningen på höstadiet går inte ut på att lära sig skriva musik. Det låter helt osannolikt att du skulle höja betyget genom att skriva en egen låt.

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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... 😱

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

Ärligt talat, är det någon som sagt så till dig: "Skriver du en tillräckligt bra låt/text så har du chans på ett mvg i musik."

Du är snart 15 så du borde gå i 8'an. Stämmer det? För att få mvg i ett ämne ska man visa att man tillgodogjort sig kursen på bästa sätt. Men musikundervisningen på höstadiet går inte ut på att lära sig skriva musik. Det låter helt osannolikt att du skulle höja betyget genom att skriva en egen låt.

Det kan faktiskt vara till hjälp. Min klass hade att komponera en åtta takters melodislinga med tillhörande ackord som betygshöjande moment i nian.

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Det var inte så herrans många år sen jag själv gick i åttan/nian och jag fick MVG i musik, visst jag hade skrivit några låtar, men det visste inte ens musikläraren om. Och jag har en polare som jobbade som musiklärare på högstadium och han hade inga sånna uppgifter, stog inget om det i kursplanen heller. Däremot var dans med och det ar han väl inte så glad över 😊

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Det var inte så herrans många år sen jag själv gick i åttan/nian och jag fick MVG i musik, visst jag hade skrivit några låtar, men det visste inte ens musikläraren om. Och jag har en polare som jobbade som musiklärare på högstadium och han hade inga sånna uppgifter, stog inget om det i kursplanen heller. Däremot var dans med och det ar han väl inte så glad över 😊
Samma här. Vi dansade medeltida dans och för att få MVG krävdes VG/MVG på proven och att sedan kunna spela på en något högre nivå på något instrument. På trummor innebar det egentligen bara du da dudu da (förstår ni? 🙂) någorlunda tight. Redigerat av Overkill
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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... 😕

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

Hei Magi!

Jeg svarer på engelsk, slik at det blir enklere å forstå meg 😉 ::

To write good lyrics is the same as being able to tell great stories. With as few words as possible, you need to capture the essence of an atmosphere, a mood, or a feeling. Most all great stories begin with an exciting, mysterious, unusual - in some way interesting start. The first sentences must capture the attention of the listener. This is often done by using "new", interesting or "textured" words - or by describing an interesting setting or interesting people with great imagery and metaphors. As the story progresses, some unexpected twists and turns keeps the listener interested enough to listen all to the end.

It's hard to explain how to write a good lyric, so I have tried to analyze one - to show how the writer has used his words to convey images and emotions to us, to maintain an atmosphere and to carry the story forward.

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Tim Mcgraw - Grown men don't cry

First verse:

1. I pulled into the shopping center

2. And saw a little boy wrapped around the legs of his mother

3. Like ice cream melting they embraced

4. Years of bad decisions runnin' down her face

5. All mornin' I'd been thinkin' my life's so hard

6. And they wore everything they own, livin' in a car

7. I wanted to tell 'em it would be ok

8. But I got just got in my suburban and I drove away

My thoughts on the first verse, sentence by sentence:

1. Setting. The framework for the story - where are we?, what time, place, universe and so on.

2. People. Who is this story about. Don't forget that the observer (singer) is also a character here.

3. Texture, imagery. This sentence really says it all, doesn't it? You can picture two people embracing like they were melting together. The writer is activating our imagination - getting the mind interested..

4. More texture and imagery. Without saying straight out that "the mother is crying because she's made some wrong choices in her life", the writer is able to transmit both a feeling and an image of hopelessness in the same sentence, still leaving our minds to "solve" the metaphor - making the lyrics more interesting than if the situation was simply explained..

5. Change of focus to keep the story interesting. Back to the main character (singer) - and his relation to these other characters.

6. More imagery - again, without saying directly that these people are poor.

7 / 8. Moving away from the situation. Changing focus. This enables the listener to be prepared for a new setting, a new sidestory - something new.

Also notice that we're not getting really personal with anything here in the first verse. The singer is mostly describing a situation that he is observing, not something he is actively involved in - this lets the listener join in on the observation and attach his/her feelings to the situation - instead of getting attached to the characters (which would be a bad idea, since we dont even know the characters properly yet, and it would be hard to feel anything for them at this point..?)

It's interesting to see the songwriters use of "senses" in his choice of words.. SEE, HEAR, SMELL, FEEL, TASTE.

(1. First we get the setting. )

2. Then we SEE the people.

3. And you know the TASTE of icecream (metaphor: sweet embrace?).

4. You know the FEELing of tears on your face.

and so on..

[CHORUS HERE]

Second verse:

1. Keep having this dream about my old man

2. I'm 10 years old, and he's holding my hand

3. We're talkin' on the front porch watchin' the sun go down

4. But it was just a dream - he was a slave to his job and he couldn't be around

5. So many things I wanna say to him

6. But I just placed a rose on his grave, and I talk to the wind

1. New setting - a little more personal now, since we have gotten a little bit more attached / used to the singer character.

2. FEEL: most people know what it feels like to hold your fathers hand. Observe that we begin with the sense FEEL - which is the closest and most personal one to us all.

3. New senses... HEAR, SEE, - we are moving "away" from our person. HEAR is the third closest sense to us, and SEE is the one furthest apart.. So by describing "talking.. watching the sun go down".. - he is moving our focus away from the FEEL sense, step by step.

4. Now the twist in the story, and the reason for why the writer begun to move us away from the FEEL sense in the previous sentence. We are taken away from the "idyllic" father/son relationship and brought down to earth by the cold hard facts.

5. Back to the HEAR sense ("..say to him.."), moving closer to something more personal again?

6. FEEL. The touch of a rose - thorns = pain, but beautiful to look at.. - perfectly describing the singers "broken" relationship with his father.. And again back to HEAR (talk to the wind), and then to FEEL (the sensation of wind on your skin).. Moving to something more personal again.. The writer is pushing and pulling us back and forth between different senses, causing tension and expectation..

[CHORUS]

Third verse:

1. I'm sittin' here with my kids and my wife

2. And everything that I hold dear in my life

3. We say grace and thank the Lord

4. Got so much to be thankful for

5. Then it's up the stairs and off to bed and my little girl says

6. "I haven't had my story yet."

7. And everything weighin' on my mind disappears just like that

8. When she lifts her head off her pillow and says,

9. "I Love You Dad"

1. Even more personal and serious.. Now we feel we know the singer character - and we are introduced to his family. Observe how the words and images get more "simple" and down to earth now. Instead of using clever imagery and "textured" words - the writer is taking the story "down to earth", describing with the most simple and easy words...

2. hold dear in my life (FEEL)

3. say grace (HEAR)

4. Conclusion sentence.. Afterthought.. A little breathing room in the story. We get ready for something new..

5. New situation / setting / atmosphere.. another little twist in the story, and we are moving away from the tension/seriousness..

6. Goodvibes are coming back as you picture the little girl asking to hear a bedtime story 🙂

7. The good vibes are back indeed! Forgetting about the past and all the worries, focusing on the present.

8. More simple imagery, leading our imagination up to the final payoff sentence.

9. PAYOFF! What could be more good-vibe than this? 🙂

As you see, the writer is taking us on an emotional rollercoaster. We begin with observing a sad situation.. Then we are brought to the memories of an even more sad situation (poor relationship with his father).. And then a bit back up to a melancholic and personal situation where we get an afterthought - an "ending" of the sadness. And then back to the happiness of the present.

By using clever and unusual images:

"And saw a little boy wrapped around the legs of his mother

Like ice cream melting they embraced"

The writer grabs our attention, and takes our imagination on a journey. And as we progress in the song (story) it gets deeper and more personal - but also more simple and down to earth. So, the beginning seems to be "clever" to catch our attention - and then the story is made more and more simple to make it easy to remember and relate to..

The combination of a lyric that is interesting to listen to, easy to remember, and makes you feel something is what makes this lyric work. And there is the music - that with its mood-setting choices of chords and melody makes it even more interesting and memorable. And makes you feel even more for the words and the story...

---

Even though these are my thoughts, I hope you got something out of them. Perhaps you begin to focus on how you build your story - and how you choose to tell it, and try to make it more interesting, memorable and heartbreaking/positive/"feelworthy"..

- J.

Vilket fantastiskt bra inlägg 🙂

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Hjälp mig med att komma igång med låtskrivandet.... :rolleyes:

Jag ska skriva text och musik för att lyckas med ett MVG i musiken.

Jag vet inte hur man skriver en text,och allting går så dåligt,jag kommer på en bra refräng men sedan så passar det inte ihop med versen och ja hjälp, jag skulle vara tacksam om någon kunde ge mig tips på hur man får ihop allt.

Med varma hälsningar Magi ^^'>

OK... Något ska jag försöka tillföra iaf. Jag märker att en del är lite negativa här, och även om jag förstår vad de menar håller jag inte med. Visst förtjänar du inte ett MVG om du inte har något att komma med! MEN... Det kan ju hända att du faktiskt har det, men måste gräva lite för att hitta det. Och det här med att man antingen har det från början eller inte tycker jag inte heller stämmer helt... Man måste alltid lära sig något, även om vissa kanske är mer genetiskt begåvade än andra.

För det första: Spelar du något instrument, eller skriver du bara sång? Om du inte har någon (koll på) musik blir det ju svårt. I ett sånt fall är det väl bäst att du hittar nån instrumentalist som kan hjälpa dig och inspirera dig. Då blir det ju självklart lättare att få det att passa ihop också! Annars blir det lite som att försöka läsa när man är blind. Någon som bara kan ta några ackord och hålla ett tempo kan duga.

Och när det gäller texten... Allt Jahala sa var ju bra - även om jag tycker att den där texten kanske inte var den bästa referensen. Men det är kanske mycket p.g.a. min personliga smak. Jag gillar inte texter som går ut på typ "Först gick jag in där, såg honom och henne och sen hände det här, varpå jag sen åkte hem och drack te och tittade på TV" (<--- JA, jag överdrev). De har en tendens att ofta bli väldigt corny - men kanske inte alltid. Hursomhelst... I ett sånt här läge borde du först och främst kanske tänka på vad du vill säga i texten. Vad är ditt budskap? Är det något om att du älskar eller hatar någon person? Eller är det något som handlar om dig själv och ditt liv? Prova att skriva ner vad du vill säga först. Alltså... BUDSKAPET. T.ex. om det gäller någon som står dig nära:

"Du har alltid funnits där för mig och du betyder mer för mig än du någonsin kommer att förstå, jag älskar dig", blablabla... När du vet vad du faktiskt vill säga med texten - DÅ kan du börja formulera om dina meningar till något mer poetiskt så att det inte blir för tamt. Försök tänka på att komma med bra liknelser och meningar som är mer öppna för tolkning, istället för att vara allt för konkreta.

T.ex: "Jag gick runt i Bryssel packad som fan och hade precis tappat bort mitt leg" --> "I was far away from home and I had lost my sober self along with my identity". Ähum... Typ.

Lycka till med ditt arbete!

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